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Verfasst: Mo 17. Jul 2006, 15:41
von blutarsky
I've been using for years a Nokia tight with Oxygen Phone Manager.
Now I'm on SE and I'm testing your app with a k800i.
A few questions:
a) why USB connection is so slow?
b) Edit profile isn't working: a dialog appears and all entries are dimmed...
Wish list
- Enable import and sync within Outlook:
-- Sync Outlook Contacts managing multiple folders at once
--- Categories: add an "exclude categories" option when synching
--- Import street address from business/home depending on availability; if both present then let user decide
-- Sync Outlook calendar
- Enable "Group ringtones":
-- actually it looks like k800i doesn' support group ringtones (it means business calls have different ringtones from friends calls and so on); you could bypass this limit with the following strategy:
--- when synching from Outlook contacts retain categories into the program (could go for a mapping strategy between Outlook categories and PE categories, forceing users to choose between 4/6 PE Group-Ringtones like [Business], [Friends], [VIP], [Other]);
--- do import and store into PE archives
--- when updating phone, assign ringtones to phone contacts based on archive info...
Verfasst: Mo 17. Jul 2006, 18:24
von FJ
Hy
The USB-Speed with the original cable on a K800 is about 100 KB/s - more is not possible. If you doesn't reach this speed please check your Connection-settings and try other possibilitys (The USB-Cable-drivers install 4 Ports, maybe you've set the wrong port)
SE-Phones doesn't allow profile-editing since the K700/S700 series
Outlook-Sync will be avaiable in the next version. Group-Managment and contactdefined ringtones are not possible to edit/create.
Regards FJ
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 08:49
von blutarsky
FJ hat geschrieben:Outlook-Sync will be avaiable in the next version. Group-Managment and contactdefined ringtones are not possible to edit/create.
Not in the phone. But you can trick this applying the steps I've described above.
1) When synching from Outlook manage a small mapping between MPE and Outlook contact categories; 4/5 MPE categories are enough (Friends, Business, VIP, Other)
2) Store those MPE categories into MPE contacts
3) Let users assign a ringtone to each MPE category.
4) On MPE<>Phone sync, change each contact ringtone following the MPE.Contact.Category.Ringtone xref.
Not so smart, but very effective!
As I've said Oxygen Phone Manager was tricking it in the same way with Nokia phones and it worked flawlessly!!
No other sync software does it so.....it could be a quantum leap!!
About Outlook contacts be sure to enable multiple folders (and subfolders) at the same time. It is very common to have personal contacts locally and business contacts on a remote server (Exchange public folders). The category trick suggested by someone is useless! In a business environemnet it's impossible to store all contacts in one folder and view by category.
I can help testing the Outlook\Exchange side....... and the group ringtones if you decide to go for it!
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 09:14
von blutarsky
FJ hat geschrieben:The USB-Speed with the original cable on a K800 is about 100 KB/s - more is not possible. If you doesn't reach this speed please check your Connection-settings and try other possibilitys (The USB-Cable-drivers install 4 Ports, maybe you've set the wrong port)
I've let MPE detect the right port and speed (Why do you need to emalute a COM port whith USB?) and it has found the proper one configuring the baud rate to 921600 and th packet size to 4096.
Nevertheless when downling pix from the phone the maximum speed acheived is 14KB/s...
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 09:34
von FJ
About speed: restart your phone and reinstall the cable-drivers
About ringtone-management: Its not possible to set a contact-based ringtone (depends on the firmware of SE).
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 12:19
von blutarsky
FJ hat geschrieben:About ringtone-management: Its not possible to set a contact-based ringtone (depends on the firmware of SE).
What? I just had a go and modified one contact ringtone and it works perfectly.
Are we talking about the same thing?
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 13:49
von blutarsky
FJ hat geschrieben:About speed: restart your phone and reinstall the cable-drivers
Ok, I did uninstall reinstall the drivers, still the same. As testing FMA at the same time, I've noticed that it was using another port (COM10). I've Forced manually that port on MPE, and now it flies to 140KB/s.
What happens is that the driver installation createss 3 virtual COM ports: COM7, COM8, COM10; the COM7 port doesn't work, COM8 yes but it's slow and COM10 it's speedy. Probabiliy when discovering devices, MPE stops at the first "good" port even if it is slow........
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 18:27
von FJ
You can set a contact-defined ringtone inside the phone, but i know no software which is able to do that, cause SE has a restricted software-interface.
Cause Port-detection: Please post the first ten lines of your logfile here.
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 19:51
von blutarsky
It's disappointing SE restricted the phone access...... we should all sign up a document to ask more accessibility....what do you use a SE SDK?
Here's the log:
Logdatei MyPhoneExplorer
************************
Programmversion: 1.4.5
Datum: 18-07-2006
17:21:32.84 Setting Port: 10
17:21:32.84 Setting Baud: 921600
17:21:32.85 Avaiable Ports: COM3=\Device\TOSHIBAModem5; COM7=\Device\SE27obex0; COM8=\Device\SE27mgmt0; COM9=\Device\SE27mdm0; COM10=\Device\SE27mdm1;
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 20:03
von FJ
Yes - i know the software of SE se disappointing me too
. And yes - i used SE-Guidelines. if you know a solution let me know.
In my opinion COM9 also should work very good on your system. Is that right ?
Verfasst: Di 18. Jul 2006, 20:19
von blutarsky
Wow! Much faster about 250KB/s!!!!
Any chance with can bring SE on theyr knees and let them acces everything on the phone
Verfasst: Mi 19. Jul 2006, 07:33
von FJ
I don't think we have a chance - they are not able to create a powerful PC-Suite, do you really think they will hear our wishes ?
Verfasst: Mi 19. Jul 2006, 09:27
von blutarsky
Hum... who knows? But getting technical, are you using an API to access phone functions? There may be an undocumented set of functions to set ringtones and other unaccessible values.....
As a registered user, You could try to contact the responsible for the SDK and ask why they don't release a function to set ringtones....
BTW is the k800 an UIQ3 or EMP base OS?
Verfasst: Mi 19. Jul 2006, 09:43
von FJ
Hehe - i often have tried to get a technical answer in their developerforum, but all their interests goto JAVA. If you have other questions you'll get no answer.
The K800 is NO Symbian-phone. If it would be based on Symbian you cannot access the phone with MyPhoneExplorer.
Verfasst: Mi 19. Jul 2006, 12:21
von blutarsky
We must find a way to set ringtones!!!!
Verfasst: Do 20. Jul 2006, 14:26
von blutarsky
BTW: What API are you using to access phonebook? In FMA I've noticed that you can set contact picture and ringtone (within the application) but it fails updating it into the phone...
Maybe using another API you could do that?
Verfasst: Do 20. Jul 2006, 15:32
von FJ
I use the IRMC-SYNC-Protocol, in FMA you can set pictures inside FMA - has nothing to do with the phone. In my opinion this is a joke
Verfasst: Do 20. Jul 2006, 16:07
von blutarsky
Hum I'm starting missing my old Nokia 6510!
Ringtones and message alerts had each separate volume levels, Outlook contact notes were visible in the phone contact, much better keypad layout, clever keypad buttons intuitivity design and, yes, group ringtones......
How the hell SE thinks?
Do you expect any firmware improvement or is it out of SE philosophy?
Verfasst: Do 20. Jul 2006, 16:24
von FJ
I hope since my T300 (3 Years ago) for a firmware which allows to access ringtones and contact-pictures, but they do nothing.