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SMS:s get mixed with each other
Verfasst: So 27. Jan 2008, 13:51
von rene
Hi,
I get every now and then a messages mixed with each other in my phone explorer (latest case in 1.6.6). I have no clue why this happens, cause the program has not crashed etc. The latest case is with a message that i sent from MPE, and that got mixed with an other message on MPE (i'm trying to track which message, but til now I could not find it on my phone cause i have about 500 messages stored on it)
Can this be somehow re-fetched from the phone, or is there a tool that i coud use to manually recover these messages?
I'm using the k800i over bluetooh with the CXC1250210 R1JG001 070214 sw version.
Verfasst: So 27. Jan 2008, 15:06
von FJ
Does it happen only on sent messages ?
Verfasst: So 27. Jan 2008, 15:19
von rene
No, the problem is also with incoming messages.
Verfasst: So 27. Jan 2008, 15:41
von FJ
In general this problem can occur if there are messages with the same PartUID (its a random value from 0 to 255). It should appear not very often cause MyPhoneExplorer merges the messages in the same order of the StoradeID of the phone. Is your messagestore nearly full ?
Verfasst: So 27. Jan 2008, 15:45
von rene
Yes, the messagestore is more or less full. I'm going throught one by one all sent messages in my phone and add the sent date manually to myphonexplorer. That is a bit time consuming, and therefore i'm not up 2 date with that project yet...
Is the storade-id the order the messages are stored in the phone? i would love to get that sort-option to mpe, cause that would make it faster when adding those sent-dates to my messages..
Verfasst: So 27. Jan 2008, 17:12
von FJ
MyPhoenExplorer sorts already in this way by default.
Normally the storage ID gets higher with every new message. But when the storage gets full then the phone searches for a free slot with a lower ID. And there begins the problem.
Verfasst: Mi 30. Jan 2008, 22:12
von oré
I had too this problem. When a friend write me a SMS with his Nokia, all his SMS have the same PartUID, it seems it is not a random value for his phone. If i delete a single message, the new SMS has a part stored in this old ID, and the other part in another free ID. Then on the computer the SMS are mixed...
I have seen that Float Mobile Agent correctly print the SMS, maybe there are other informations in the SMS? if you can't resolve it, can you make an option wich separate long SMS, and let us join manually one to another? or just let them separated, because when we have this bug, it is better to see sms separated with "(...)" and the real sent-time, instead of a lot of SMS mixed wich have different date...
Verfasst: Do 31. Jan 2008, 10:49
von Eddie Plum
Or, you guys could delete some messages off your phone and let MPE store them on your computer in the archive.
Ed.
Verfasst: Sa 2. Feb 2008, 17:27
von oré
Yes but, for exemple, in the same day i receive two long SMS (then i can't connect my phone to a computer between), if it is not stored in the order i receive it, in MPE the two long SMS are mixed in two other irrelevant SMS and there is no way to order them... and a fonction which let us organise or juste separate long SMS would be useful in this case!!! Because it happened not rarely...
Verfasst: Di 6. Mai 2008, 10:58
von Kallisti
I just noticed that I get this as well. For me this is a dataloss bug, the original sms's are not stored and I'm suddenly feeling a bit scared about using MPE to store my messages.
FJ, is this on your radar? There was no reply from you to the questions by oré.
/K
Verfasst: Di 6. Mai 2008, 11:23
von FJ
There is no way for a real technical fix and the workaround with manual reordering is not pleased to me...
Verfasst: Di 6. Mai 2008, 20:31
von weinbi
I'm also using a k800 and i never ever had these problems.
I have never more than 400-500 messages on the phone, so just move some into the archive and it should be no problem!!
Verfasst: Fr 23. Mai 2008, 12:23
von emjay
FJ hat geschrieben:There is no way for a real technical fix and the workaround with manual reordering is not pleased to me...
Could it be possible to merge the parts based on more than just Part Id and Storage Id?
Perhaps include the time and date - if the Part Id and Storage Id match on several messages the ones with less time between send/receive time is matched together.
Verfasst: Fr 23. Mai 2008, 12:52
von FJ
Datecompare is senseless - the messages hav diffrent timestamps. MyPhoneExplorer joins the messages trought enumerating, so also the StorageID is already included in the algo.
Text messages out of sequence
Verfasst: Sa 24. Mai 2008, 17:27
von EmmCeeX
Not sure if this is part of the same issue, but I used MPE for the first time today and copied (and archived) al ot of sent texts. When I printed them off from a Word document I noted that some were out of date sequence and none of the texts in the Word file had time / date showing. A bit odd. Other than that, I think the software is excellent.
Verfasst: Sa 24. Mai 2008, 19:11
von weinbi
Verfasst: Sa 24. Mai 2008, 21:20
von emjay
FJ hat geschrieben:Datecompare is senseless - the messages hav diffrent timestamps. MyPhoneExplorer joins the messages trought enumerating, so also the StorageID is already included in the algo.
I know they have different timestamps but the parts of a long message will normally have timestamps close to each other.
Example:
sms 1:
part 1: 10:20:20
part 2: 10:20:40
sms 2:
part 1: 11:20:20
part 2: 11:20:40
When there is no check for time it is possible that part 1 of sms 1 can be put together with part 2 of sms 2. But it is easy to see on the time that these two parts does not match because the timestamps are close to each other.
Verfasst: So 25. Mai 2008, 11:49
von FJ
This is not stable enought. If you come onto a place without networkconnection the parts can be diffrent of hours.
Verfasst: Do 29. Mai 2008, 08:31
von FJ
I tried now to fix it. MyPhoneExplorer compares now also the timestamp from the ServiceCenter. If the date is more diffrent then one day then MPE will not join the message. Please try the
beta and report. Please not that it has no effect to the SMS-archive. If you save a multiple message once in the archive then it will be joined there forever.